If I Was Born Again and Baptized Do I Need to Get Baptized Again in the Lutheran Church

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I am trying to join my fiancé'southward IFB church and perchance they are more stringed in their membership process than my last IFB church. They say that considering I was saved in The Missionary Church (a CM&A affiliated denomination) and so my Baptism is questionable. I gave my life to the Lord at the historic period of five and rededicated my life at age 17. Past the Lordship statement I was not saved until historic period 17, all the same its not similar I accept been perfect and have non struggled with certain sins since age 17. The Lordship argument may not be entirely Biblical. Looking at Eph 2:8-10 it would appear that the Lordship argument is refuted to some caste. Notwithstanding I concord with some of the Lordship argument.
Since my clan with the Brotherhood, I have joined Bible Churches, Southern Baptist Churches, and a IFB church building and none have asked me to get Baptized again. Simply if this is a deal breaker I will practice so. Its only I do non look forwards to getting into common cold water.

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1. I would ask them why they call up information technology is questionable...although if being baptized in a baptist church is their policy information technology may non thing.
2. If you truly believe your first Baptism was as a believer, and valid, you should tell them that and encounter what they say. Would they desire to baptize you again knowing total well that you don't believe it's necessary?

3. You should read this letter past John Piper...information technology is ane of the most helpful things I accept ever read regarding Lordship Salvation.

http://world wide web.desiringgod.org/resources...d-concerning-the-so-called-lordship-salvation

I would be interested to know what you call up of it.

4. Ultimately information technology will be your decision.
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Were you a laic in Jesus Christ when you were baptized? If so, it was a valid baptism and you are not required to be rebaptized.
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Ask for a individual ceremony with only the baptizer, you lot and another witness.
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Yes I was. I have grown since so but I was.
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Some Baptist churches in my area volition non take letters of recommendations from other Baptist churches only require you lot to be re-baptized. Not all Baptist believe exactly the same.
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If its a deal breaker I will do and then and I may need to get Baptized a 2nd time. Its okay I only do not similar cold water, and I practice not like legalism.
I am familiar with the Lordship argument and I agree with about one-half of it. Nonetheless the Lordship argument does not address the contents of the book.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0802427197/?tag=baptis04-twenty

What practise you think of the book?
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Its okay I will do so if this is a bargain breaker. I hate cold water…..
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I would not exist re-baptized. That would be a bargain billow for me.
In that location is no "Baptist" baptism - only scriptural baptism.
Y'all many desire to bank check out some of the other behavior of that church. You may find you disagree with some other issues as well.
Would your fiancé consider joining your church building?

I will not baptized someone who has previously been scripturally baptized.
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Tell them you volition meet them halfway if they will run a little hot water in the tub.:laugh:
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She has been at that place a while but may appear to be naive in some areas. She has learned allot from me since nosotros started dating. She used to think that belongings hands and kissing outside of marriage was a sin.
They are large on soul winning which I agree with, still they are arminian in their approach. Not perfect but ameliorate than friendship evangelism.

So far these are the only concerns merely I may find more than. Every church has bug and things I practice not agree with I will say.
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I have introduced her to David Jeremiah and John MacArthur and she has fallen in love with them. She was not born and raised a Bob Jones IFB die difficult and got saved but in 2008. Otherwise like many BJU dice hards they would non read those authors.
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Depends on the reason for the re-baptism.
Is it truly because you were not built-in once again when yous were first baptized? (And keep in heed that one can "believe" in Jesus and still not be born again) If so then absolutely you lot should be re-baptized. That, in fact is what I volition be doing in two weeks from Sunday.:godisgood:

Or is it because they believe in some "baptist bride" theology with a "baptist-only" baptism requirement? If and then then I wouldn't be re-baptized and I'd find a new church.
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So I don't get off OP, why is thatHave you lot taken a good await at the church building constitution and doctrine statement? Inquire questions, insist on a direct answer to your questions.
Or the two of y'all could find another church....
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Washed.
A core element of Baptist beliefs is "believer's baptism". Since you had believer's baptism there is no need to get re-baptized.

Accept you given this church a reason for them to think you weren't saved when you were baptized as a child? If not, why practice they continue insisting you lot get re-baptized? Are they opening questioning your salvation? (Talk virtually a deal breaker for joining their church building!)
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Hmm…

They believe in the autonomy of the local church..
Remind me of that one once again. Thank you.

They are as well large on separation as most IFB churches are. This would explain why they would never teach The Way of the Primary.
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To be a valid baptism, information technology must run across the following criteria:
one. Proper subject
2. Proper design
3. Proper mode
4. Proper administrator.
Near of us tin can agree on the first three.
Proper subject--a professing laic
Proper design--to picture the death, burying and resurrection of the Lord Jesus
Proper mode--Immersion.

The proper ambassador is a bit stickier. The quick answer is a true New Attestation church. Merely that begs the question, how practise we ascertain a NT church? And, what erroneous doctrines and practices would disqualify?

Local congregations will decide for themselves. My own church will accept as valid, the baptism of churches of like faith and order. By definition, that would include most Baptist churches, simply not all. Free-Will Baptist and General Baptists, for example. Nosotros have accepted the baptism of some congregations who do not place themselves as Baptist, but whose doctrines and practices are similar.

Obviously we would not accept the baptism of someone who had been sprinkled (incorrect mode); nor would we accept the baptism of a grouping which holds to baptismal regeneration (wrong design) (RCC or Church building of Christ, for instance).

I can call up many years ago when my congregation would not accept any baptism from an IFB church (not like order, that is, non Southern Baptist). We changed that policy eventually.

We even so would require anyone to be baptized who came out of the Presbyterian, Methodist, Lutheran or Cumberland Presbyterian churches.

The fact is, many Baptist churches hold that they are not true New Testament churches, and that'southward why their baptisms are in-valid.

Bottom line, it'south not what you think near your baptism. It's what that congregation thinks. Wanna join them? Permit 'em dunk you. Otherwise, find a church building that recognizes your baptism.
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If information technology was a cult, or a Catholic church then the Baptism would not be valid. Too if information technology was done past sprinkling, then yeah. But yes I may need to get re-baptized as it does non matter what I retrieve in the to the lowest degree equally my Baptism was done in a Weslyian church.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionary_Church
The Missionary Church is a Trinitarian torso that believes the Bible is the inspired Word of God and authoritative in all matters of faith; that "salvation is the event of 18-carat repentance of sin and faith in the atoning piece of work of Christ"; and that the "church building is composed of all believers in the Lord Jesus who have been vitally united past religion to Christ". They concord two Christian ordinances: baptism (by immersion) and the Lord'southward Supper, which are outward signs, not a means of salvation.

They hold to the essentials of the religion so I don't know what the big bargain is of this church.